How Has End-of-Life Care Changed?

An interview with Barbara Karnes, nurse, author, and end-of-life educator, Part Two

In this second part of a two part interview, I sit down with award winning author, nurse, and end-of-life educator, Barbara Karnes, to talk about her experiences with hospice and end-of-life care. Among many other end-of-life works, Barbara wrote the famous”Gone From my Sight” (aka the “blue book”) which was the first hospice industry resource for patients and family about the dying process.

Editor’s Note: This interview has been edited for length and readability.

an image of barbara karnes as she discusses how end-of-life care has changedColleen Ferguson: You’ve almost been involved with hospice and end-of-life care since the beginning; could you share a little about the history of hospice and your experience with it?

Barbara Karnes: Well, the concept of hospice originated in England with Cicely Saunders, who was a nurse and social worker. England has the National Health Service, and at the time, their care was divided up into individual buildings — separate hospitals for different needs. And they created a building for people who couldn’t be “fixed” and called it hospice.

So these ideas were coming over to America, but it didn’t quite fit into our healthcare system. And at this time, Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, a psychiatrist and pioneer in near-death studies, came forward and said that the medical profession wasn’t really taking care of people that were dying…that we were lacking in end-of-life care.

This is about the time I got involved. I was hearing this and thought, “Wow, this is what I thought nursing should be about.” I thought it was about taking care of more than just the physical aspect, but taking care of the emotional, mental and spiritual parts of a person as well as their family. Hospice seemed to incorporate all of this, so I pursued it and took the Hospice Concepts class.

In the beginning, the goal of hospice was about being with the family during death. It was developing outside the medical model, because dying isn’t a medical event. It’s a social, communal event.

But as hospice and palliative care has evolved over the years, the regulations have developed such that many families are alone with their loved one when he or she dies, and they don’t know what to do.

Colleen: Do you think more people are dying at home?

an image of Barbara Karnes e book self care for the professional caregiver and how end-of-life care has changed

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Barbara: No, I don’t think so. At least, it’s not happening as much as I’d like to see it. If you ask most people where they want to die, they’ll say, “At home on the bed with my cat.” That’s what most people want.

But our healthcare is not geared to meet people’s needs at end of life. For a person to die at home, it’s 24/7 hard work, and many people can’t maintain or afford to have at-home care. It’s not about how much medical knowledge is needed for end-of-life care, it’s the support and guidance for the family to take care of this person as he or she is dying.

So most people are still dying in the ICU under the medical model, which is the idea that “we fix people.” If medical can’t fix people, then according to their perspective, they’ve failed. Death is to be avoided and not prepared for.

But there are hospice houses where people can go to die, which is better than a hospital, ICU, or nursing home. And while some hospice and end-of-life care is taking on more of the medical model, the community is answering and developing its own systems, outside the medical model. There are end-of-life doulas who can help families through the death process, ministries that are learning about end of life, and residential facilities that are only taking in people who are approaching end of life.

Colleen: For those who work or want to work in hospice or other end-of-life care, can you give me a brief outline about your book, “You Need Care Too: Self Care for the Professional Caregiver?”

an image of Barbara Karnes book cover which includes self care for the professional caregiver and how end-of-life care has changed

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Barbara: First, you have to know why you want to do it. What motivates you? That’s the key. Then you’ll want to explore your beliefs, because unconsciously, all of that is going to interact with your personality, and that’s your foundation. So, what do you think happens? If you think death is “bad” or a failure, then you’re probably in the wrong job.

Once you know who you are and why you’re doing this, then I recommend a buddy system. It’s important that you have someone in your work environment who understands. You need to be able decompress and get it out. Caregivers carry a lot of unrealized grief, because we give away a piece of ourselves with each patient. We need to develop a means of closure.

We can’t grieve extensively for every patient and family. There were people who I took care of that got into my heart, and I grieved deeply for them. And I knew they would come along.

If you missed Part One of our interview with Barbara Karnes catch up here.

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2 Responses to How Has End-of-Life Care Changed?

  1. avatar Deborah Rivera, RN CHPN says:

    I have been a hospice and Palliative nurse since 1995. I always felt called to do this work and am skilled and compassionate at it. Sadly, while more people may be utilizing hospice it is usually in the last days or weeks of life and increasingly not at home . There are many reasons for this (societal and financial). The medical model with heavy regulation has invaded end of life care big time in the past 10 years. I also find that Americans , especially “Baby Boomers” who are dealing with their parents and own mortality are even more in denial of death and facts than when I started this work over 20 years ago. I am weary of frequently being seen as “the bad guy” when asked to talk to people and their families about terminal illness in the hospital because none of the other medical team members are brave enough or have the training to do so. They want you to have the hard conversations but are quick to “throw you under the bus”when families complain that you are “too negative” or giving up on their loved ones, most of whom are very elderly, frail and have one or more system failures or end of life conditions. Everyone (Clinicians and entities) is so afraid of being sued and is practicing defensive medicine that it is very difficult to get people on comfort care at end of life.

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    • avatar Colleen Ferguson (Blog Writer, SevenPonds) says:

      Thank you for sharing your story and perspective (and thank you for what you do as a hospice and palliative nurse). I agree that it is vital we talk more about death, end of life care, and pursue those hard – but realistic AND practical – conversations…if not to just be more prepared, but to take away the stigma of death, and like you said, perhaps improve the level of care and quality of life for those who are at the end of theirs.

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